[g1-hackers] Apps (WAS: A/C vs USB Charging)

Bob K Mertz lists at bibleboy.org
Thu Feb 19 01:49:29 UTC 2009


Luke wrote:
> I believe I read the documentation for power management somewhere in 
> here. http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/vendor/htc/dream.git Also, 
> everyone stay on the lookout for my android apps that I have been making 
> in my spare time. The first one I am making should be released in about 
> two weeks, it uses the popular "Orb" software to stream video and other 
> media to your G1, Next thing I want to try is a PDF reader that uses 
> Google's PDF to HTML conversion engine, but if someone has a better idea 
> for something more practical, let me know.
> 
One thing I *REALLY* need is a way to play WAV (or .gsm) files recorded 
from an Asterisk server.  I have my voicemail controlled by an Asterisk 
server and have my voicemails emailed to me.  My BlackBerry could always 
play them but my G1 says it doesn't support the format.

> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bob K Mertz <lists at bibleboy.org 
> <mailto:lists at bibleboy.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Luke wrote:
>      > Actually, the way the G1 identifies power is very simple. Most
>     devices
>      > powered by a rechargeable battery have a voltage monitor. This
>     voltage
>      > monitor is not a separate G1 subsystem (as in most phones), but an
>      > actual software driven part of Android. This was put in place for
>      > accessory makers. Somewhere in Android's documentation, there is
>      > information on utilization of this feature. I will look for it
>     tonight
>      > and send my response.
> 
>     That would be great.  I'd really like to have it draw the max power when
>     plugged into my car... it's frustrating that in some cases the phone
>     will use more power than its drawing -- especially when I know what it's
>     plugged into can supply more.
> 
>      > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Bob K Mertz <lists at bibleboy.org
>     <mailto:lists at bibleboy.org>
>      > <mailto:lists at bibleboy.org <mailto:lists at bibleboy.org>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Todd Lesher wrote:
>      >      > The USB specification says PC connectors only need to supply
>      >     500mA (for
>      >      > a device that identifies itself as high power) or 100mA (low
>      >     power). You
>      >      > could get one of the split cords: mini-USB to two PC
>     connectors.
>      >      >
>      >     I don't think that it's an issue of the port not supplying
>     enough power
>      >     as it is the G1 reduces it's draw when its connected via USB.
>      Even when
>      >     using my old BlackBerry mini-USB charger plugged into the A/C
>     outlet the
>      >     G1 still signals USB charging.  One way to verify this is if
>     you use
>      >     Power Manager and configure a profile for both A/C and USB.
>      I can
>      >     understand the reasoning for the G1 backing off to, say 450mA
>     if it
>      >     detects it's plugged into a USB port but the problem is that
>     it detects
>      >     USB ports even when it's not plugged into a USB port.  I'm
>     thinking
>      >     maybe the OEM charger has 2 of the pins shorted or something
>     to signal
>      >     that it's on it's own A/C charger?
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >      > Pardon the top post, I'm on the G1.
>      >      >
>      >      >     On Feb 18, 2009 5:05 PM, "Bob K Mertz"
>     <online at bibleboy.org <mailto:online at bibleboy.org>
>      >     <mailto:online at bibleboy.org <mailto:online at bibleboy.org>>
>      >      >     <mailto:online at bibleboy.org
>     <mailto:online at bibleboy.org> <mailto:online at bibleboy.org
>     <mailto:online at bibleboy.org>>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >     Does anyone know what the A/C adaptor signals differently
>      >     than just a
>      >      >     regular USB cable?  I think it's a really smart idea
>     that the
>      >     G1 goes
>      >      >     easier on a computer if it's being charged by USB but the
>      >     problem I have
>      >      >     is that I use USB adaptors everywhere and all of these
>     signal
>      >     the phone
>      >      >     that USB is connected when, in reality, it's not
>     connected to a
>      >      >     computer.  I always wondered about this but then last
>     night
>      >     it became a
>      >      >     huge frustrating.  I was using bluetooth, GPS, and
>     wifi in my
>      >     car and I
>      >      >     had it connected to the USB charger.  The battery was
>     pretty
>      >     low to
>      >      >     begin with but even with the phone being charging, the
>     power
>      >     was still a
>      >      >     negative drain.  With the phone completely dead I couldn't
>      >     even get it
>      >      >     to boot back up because the USB charging wasn't
>     pulling power
>      >     fast
>      >      >     enough to get through the boot up sequence.
>      >      >
>      >      >     Anyway, I'd really like to find a way to force my phone to
>      >     draw the
>      >      >     higher current when plugged into USB.  Anyone have any
>     ideas?
>      >      >
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