[iphone-java] Why?

[Ron Yust]

Thanks Wes for you detailed answer.  I am getting more encouraged to continue pursuing a Java path.  Do you have any idea when some the items you mentioned will be usable for development?  I'm willing to assist in testing.

 
On Tuesday, August 05, 2008, at 01:10PM, "Wesley Biggs" <wesley at cacas.org> wrote:
>Jay talked about this earlier.  GCJ-compiled apps (as long as all Java
>code can be statically compiled, i.e. not downloaded over the air)
>should be compliant with Apple's terms of service and distributable
>via the AppStore.
>
>So it's not just about jailbroken devices, although that's all that's
>possible right now.
>
>In my mind there are a few key ingredients needed:
>1) a working GCJ capable of generating iphoneos binaries
>2) more Java-ish APIs for managing basic user interface components,
>etc.  One option is MIDP, which I'm working on the basics of
>currently.  Another would be an iPhone-specific library.  Personally I
>think a hybrid of the two might be best, e.g. core iPhone widgets
>expressed as javax.microedition.lcdui.CustomItem subclasses.  The
>Google Android SDK is another potential option though I'm not sure the
>fit would be right without the OS-level services working in the
>Android paradigm.
>3) a build environment that integrates with common Java tools
>(eclipse, say) and can fully generate and sign GCJ-compiled Java apps.
> Optionally, get it to work with InterfaceBuilder, but I'm kind of
>with Jay on the utility (or lack thereof) of IB.
>
>Wes
>
>2008/8/5 Guillaume Lecomte <guillaume86 at gmail.com>:
>> For the people who don't want to pay Apple and buy a mac to have the right
>> to code on their device :-| , and there is a lot of others reasons...
>>
>> 2008/8/5 Ron Yust <ryust at mac.com>
>>>
>>> After reading some of these posts I have been confused as to why everyone
>>> here is working on Java for the iPhone.  If Apple will not support Java,
>>> then what real options do normal users have for installing and running any
>>> of the Java programs everyone is writing?  So what is the long term strategy
>>> for the development efforts in this group?  Certainly a public iPhone app
>>> would not require jailbreaking the phone.  I can see hackers and technically
>>> oriented people jailbreaking and using Java apps on the iPhone, but not most
>>> users.  So why the effort?
>>>
>>> I hope that in the end there will be an iPhone world where Java is allowed
>>> officially... but worried it won't happen either.
>
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